Brand Deep Dives VOC study · August 31, 2026 · 8,000+ comments analyzed

Liquid Death's Fans Left Over the Sweetener, Not the Marketing

Liquid Death is the marketing case study every DTC founder can recite. So it is a useful test of a question nobody wants to ask about their own brand: when the product changes for the worse, how much does the brand equity actually buy you? In this corpus, almost nothing. The exits are specific, product-level and quantified in cases per week, and they arrive in the same threads where people call the marketing brilliant.

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Key Takeaways

  • Brand equity did not absorb the product change. Of about 114 coded comments describing a change in buying behavior, roughly 66% name the formula, the taste, the can size or the price. About 8% name the marketing, the advertising or the company's conduct
  • The sweetener is the whole conversation. About 57% of coded change mentions name the move from agave to stevia, and stevia is named by name in roughly 750 comments, close to one in ten across the entire corpus
  • The response is switching, not sulking. About 44% of coded responses describe moving to a named competitor, most often Spindrift, Waterloo, Polar or Topo Chico. About 16% stop entirely, several by canceling a standing subscription
  • A fifth of the response is forensic. About 21% describe hunting remaining old-formula stock and reading ingredient panels before buying, which is a customer doing quality control the brand used to do for them
  • The marketing admiration is real and inert. About 10% of coded marketing mentions call the marketing genuinely good, and those comments are frequently attached to a decision not to buy. Praise for the brand and demand for the product are running on separate tracks
  • What holds the ones who stayed is a production decision, not a brand asset. About 35% cite the plain unflavored water that never changed and about 25% cite the large cold can. Both are things a competitor can copy

Liquid Death is the brand every DTC deck reaches for. Canned water, a metal aesthetic, a sober-friendly tallboy at a festival where the only other option is beer, and a marketing operation good enough that people forward the ads voluntarily. If brand equity protects a company from anything, it should protect this one.

This is a voice-of-customer study of more than 8,000 real comments from people who drink, used to drink, or argue about Liquid Death. I went in expecting the usual brand-community pattern, where loud complaints sit on top of an intact base and the affection for the brand papers over the specifics. That is not what the comments look like. The complaints are specific, they name an ingredient, and a large share of them come attached to a competitor's name and a canceled subscription.

In a voice-of-customer analysis of 8,000+ comments about Liquid Death, product-level changes rather than brand or marketing factors accounted for the great majority of stated behavior change. Of about 114 coded comments describing a change in buying behavior, roughly 66% named the formula, taste, can size or price, while about 8% named the marketing or the company's conduct. About 57% of coded change mentions named the move from agave to stevia, and about 44% of coded responses to the change described switching to a named competitor.

About this study

Methodology
Corpus
8,000+ public comments where drinkers discuss Liquid Death, its sweetener and format changes, its line extensions and its marketing
Communities
The brand's own customer community, sparkling water and hydration communities, energy drink communities, sobriety and quitting-alcohol communities, warehouse and grocery retail communities, and marketing practitioner communities where the brand is discussed as a business case
Themes coded
What the can was originally bought for, what customers say changed about the product, what they did in response, how the line extensions land, how marketing admiration sits next to product loyalty, and what still holds the customers who stayed
Analysis
Directional thematic coding by keyword and pattern, applied within topically matching threads. A comment can be coded into more than one theme, so percentages are the share of coded mentions within a section, not of the full dataset. Figures are directional estimates from this corpus, not a precise census.
Quotes
Verbatim. Only character-encoding artifacts cleaned up. The wording, spelling, and typos are the commenter's own.

Four notes on scope before the findings, and they matter more than usual here because this is a single-brand study. First, a brand's own community overrepresents its most engaged fans and its most motivated critics, and underrepresents the far larger group who buy a can occasionally and have no opinion worth typing. Nothing in this corpus measures sales, market share or the size of the affected group, and it should not be read as doing so. Second, the sections vary a great deal in size. Sections 2, 4 and 5 rest on several hundred coded mentions each, while sections 1 and 6 rest on roughly 150 and 120, so read those two as directions rather than measurements. Third, this corpus is heavily weighted toward people who knew the earlier product. New buyers who only ever met the current formula have no comparison to make and are almost absent from the complaint conversation, which is a real limit on what the percentages here can tell you. Fourth, everything about ingredients, can sizes, discontinued flavors and company statements is reported here as what commenters said, not as verified fact about the company.

The research question

How have Liquid Death's sweetener change, can-size change and category expansion affected loyalty, and can provocative branding compensate when core fans believe the product itself got worse? The short version: the branding does not compensate, and the reason is more interesting than the failure. In this corpus the marketing was never load-bearing for purchase. It was load-bearing for identity, and identity turned out to be attached to a specific liquid in a specific can rather than to the company that sells it.


1. What the can was actually for

Start with what the product was doing for people, because it explains the shape of everything after it. Very little of this is about advertising. It is about a can being in the right place, doing a job that had no good alternative.

Why people started buying it
1. It was the only thing in the cooler~25%
2. It replaces the drink in your hand~23%
3. The joke, the design, the identity~21%
4. A can instead of a plastic bottle~19%
5. The water itself tastes right~12%

Second place is the emotionally important one and it is worth reading carefully, because it is not a brand preference. It is a social problem being solved by a physical object.

"As a sober person in AA, I do appreciate when bars sell liquid death, because I can feel like a normal person with a drink in my hand."

"I like it. I feel like I fit in at the bar when drinking liquid death at a bar or party."

"The whole idea of the 19.2oz was to mimic a tall boy for people trying to be sober at concerts and music festivals and it worked for so many of us."

"I drink ALOT of liquid death for the itch it scratches. The texture and the can i guess. Usually a couple of them kill any "nice day outside to have a beer" craving."

Notice what is doing the work in those four. A can that looks like a beer can, at a size that looks like a beer can, in a venue that sells beer. The brand's famous personality is the reason the object reads correctly across a crowded room, but the thing being bought is the object. First place makes the same point from the opposite direction.

"Haven't seen a single advertisement for liquid death I just see them in the gas station and pick up the mountain water one because I love cold water in a can"

What this means for brands

If your brand is famous for its marketing, run this exercise before you change anything about the product. Ask what job the physical item does, in what setting, at what size, and how much of that job survives if you change the item but keep the logo. Liquid Death's most-loved use case is a format claim, not a message: the can has to be big, cold, aluminum and shaped like the thing everyone else is holding. Advertising built the awareness that made the object legible. It is not what the object does. When founders say brand equity will carry a product change, they are usually describing awareness and assuming it is loyalty.

2. What people say changed

This is the largest and least ambiguous ranking in the study. When people describe the product being different, they almost always name a single ingredient, and they name it with a precision that is unusual in consumer conversation.

What customers name when they say it changed
1. The sweetener swap, agave out and stevia in~57%
2. The taste, and the aftertaste it leaves~21%
3. A flavor pulled, or no longer findable~10%
4. The price, or the can getting smaller~9%
5. The fizz, and everything else about the liquid~3%
What Liquid Death customers name when they say the product changed One ingredient accounts for most of the complaint Share of coded change mentions (directional, n = 8,000+ comments) The sweetener swap, agave out and stevia in 57% The taste, and the aftertaste it leaves 21% A flavor pulled, or no longer findable 10% The price, or the can getting smaller 9% The fizz, and everything else about the liquid 3%
Share of coded change mentions. Comments can be coded into more than one change, so shares do not sum to 100. Directional estimates from this corpus, not a census.

The sweetener comments follow a repeated grammar: a statement of past affection, then the ingredient, then a verdict. That structure is what makes them so quotable and so damaging, because the affection is doing the work of establishing credibility before the complaint lands.

"Loved Liquid Death until they changed their formula from agave sweetener to stevia. Ugh, can’t stand it now."

"I used to love liquid death BECAUSE it didn’t have artificial sweeteners. Now it tastes horrible and I’ll never buy it again."

"I loved it until the stevia leaf extract , it's really hard to enjoy them like I used to!! Flavor is so much different"

"They got rid of the agave nectar and added stevia. Completely changed the taste."

Third and fourth place are smaller but they compound, because they arrive at the same time as the first. A customer who has already decided the liquid is worse is not in a forgiving mood about paying the same money for less of it.

"I live extremely rural so every weekend my husband and I would drive up to 1.5 hrs just to get a few boxes of liquid death.. unfortunately it tastes awful now and you get WAY less for the same price so it’s no longer worth it.. I’m so sad that it changed.."

"Seriously, double the price of other brands, mid new flavor and shrinkflation 😭 it sucks cuz I really like their designs and loved drinking their old tall boys on a hot day after work"

What this means for brands

Two things. First, a sweetener is not a formulation detail to your customer, it is an identity claim about the product, and swapping one for a cheaper or sweeter alternative reads as a statement about who the product is now for. In this corpus the objection is rarely that stevia is bad in the abstract. It is that the absence of a strong sweetener was the differentiator, so removing it removed the reason to choose you. Second, never stack changes. Sweetener, can size and price moved close enough together that customers experience them as one decision with one motive, and the motive they assign is always cost-cutting. Sequenced separately, each of those is survivable. Together they produce a story about the company that no campaign can outrun.

3. What people did about it

Complaining is cheap and this corpus has plenty of it. What makes the section useful is how much of the response is not complaint at all, but behavior described in the past tense with a named alternative attached.

What people describe doing after the change
1. Switched to a different brand~44%
2. Went hunting for the old cans~21%
3. Stopped buying it, full stop~16%
4. Wrote in and told them~9%
5. Stayed, and does not mind it~9%

The switching comments name competitors, which is the part a brand team should find hardest to read. Nobody is threatening to leave. They have already gone and they are telling other people where to go.

"Lime was my favorite but stevia ruined all of their flavors for me, on to Spindrift for now."

"Yeah I got hit with small cans with stevia on my subscriptions (cherry obit and severed lime every two weeks). Immediately read about what was happening and cancelled. Ill just be sticking to bubbly and waterloo from here on out."

"I used this product to cut back on drinking beer. Adding stevia ruins that for me. Just canceled my Amazon subscription of two 8-packs every couple weeks."

"I was a 3-4 case a week person, so 3-4k from me no longer going to their pockets."

Second place has no equivalent in most churn studies and it deserves its own name. About one response in five is a customer performing quality control on the brand's behalf, learning to read the ingredient panel, tracking which retailers still hold older stock, and buying it when found.

"Another good option I like is Waterloo and La Croix. Still hoarding my prestevia cans even though theyre expiring lol"

"I always buy any pre stevia I find in the wild but a lot of people have given up on the brand as a whole after they added stevia."

"Dollar Tree and stores alike still seem to be selling some of these pre stevia for those wondering. Picked up a few including discontinued flavors"

"I’ve had it with and without the stevia and honestly the old formula is undrinkable to me. I make sure it’s in there before I buy now because I tasted the old stuff lol"

The fifth position is real and should not be edited out. Roughly one coded response in eleven is someone who does not mind the change, and the most interesting of them is the person who has no memory of the earlier product to compare against.

"I only started drinking it after the change, I only drank the plain still water then tried the fruity pebbles one, and branched out from there, I don't mind the stevia because to me it still tastes better to me than aspartame and probably partially because I don't know what I'm missing with the old formula"

What this means for brands

The hunting behaviour is the most actionable signal in this study, and it is easy to misread as devotion. It is a countdown. Every customer stockpiling old inventory is a customer who has already decided the current product is not for them and is buying time before they have to choose a replacement, and the replacement is usually already named in the same comment. Treat old-stock hunting as churn that has not been recognized yet, and treat the last-quote in that group as the only good news in the section: the person who never tasted the old version is fine. Your reformulation risk is concentrated almost entirely in customers who can make a comparison, which means the cost is front-loaded and the affected group is finite. That is a genuine argument for changing a formula. It is not an argument for changing it quietly.

4. Where the line extensions land

The sweetener change did not arrive alone. It arrived alongside an expansion into sodas, teas and caffeinated drinks, and in the comments the two are treated as the same decision. This ranking is a map of attention, not of approval.

What people are talking about when they discuss the range
1. The flavored sparkling waters~39%
2. The sodas~31%
3. The iced teas~16%
4. The energy and caffeinated line~9%
5. The plain water it started with~4%

The soda conversation is where the strategic argument actually happens, and the people making it are not hostile. Several are complimentary about the business logic while being certain about the cost.

"They went after a bigger market. They will probably have good sales. But there is no doubt they strategically chose to lose a lot of loyal customers too. They were a niche brand and a niche product, now they are just one more option in the massive ‘not soda’ soda space."

"They left a market segment they dominated, to one where they’re just a tiny fish in a big sea of soda."

"Honest answer? Because LD had a unique product that we adored. Nothing else like in the sparkling water market. And they nuked it."

"LD is just another diet soda brand now, RIP."

There is a dissenting reading, and it is the one that makes the strategy defensible. If the goal is a bigger category, sweeter is correct, and at least one commenter says the change made the product better on its own terms while quietly conceding what it cost.

"Liquid Death became infinitely better the moment they added Stevia to flavor it. However, that’s no longer sparkling water. It’s a low calorie soda."

That last comment is the whole section in two sentences. The product may well be better. It is also no longer the product the category-defining customer was buying, and the sparkling water conversation elsewhere in this corpus supports that: people choose a seltzer specifically because it is not sweet. The same tension runs through our study of why people use electrolyte products outside exercise, where a category built on a functional claim keeps drifting toward tasting like a soft drink and losing the reason people picked it.

What this means for brands

A range extension into an adjacent category is not free, and the bill arrives as a repositioning of the original product rather than as a failed new SKU. The commenters here are not saying the sodas are bad. They are saying that once the flavored waters were sweetened toward soda, the brand stopped being the only thing in its segment and became one entry in a much larger one. If you are planning a category jump, the question to answer first is whether the new line requires changing the old line. When the answer is yes, you are not extending. You are migrating, and you should price the loss of the segment you currently own into the decision.

5. The marketing everyone admires, and the product they left

Now the question the whole study exists to answer. The marketing conversation about this brand is large, sophisticated and largely positive about the craft. It is also almost entirely disconnected from whether the person typing intends to buy anything.

What people say about the brand and its marketing
1. You are paying a premium for water~66%
2. The sponsorships and the celebrity turn~13%
3. The marketing is genuinely good, and they say so~10%
4. The edge feels forced, or has worn off~8%
5. The branding is the product, the water is ordinary~3%

Read the admiration comments closely and the pattern is consistent. The praise is offered as an assessment of the company's skill, in the third person, often immediately before or after a sentence explaining why the commenter does not buy it.

"this is why the branding and packaging is as it is, and for that purposes I think it's a brilliant product. nothing but love for the brand and the mission. however if you're comparing simply against other waters it's ... fine"

"Incredible branding and marketing and that’s about it."

"fwiw, i agree with you. small cans are dumb too. it was always a milder, more subtle flavor, which is what set it apart. well, that and genius branding. until (if) something changes, i’m done too."

One commenter in the marketing community offers the sharpest version of the argument, and it is not really about advertising at all.

"great marketing but I think the success of the brand is through good distribution. They totally locked up the music fest scene a few years ago. and now they are at bars everywhere. vendors love them as you can't refill them and they can charge a premium."

The most quoted exchange in the corpus is an argument about brand loyalty itself, prompted by what commenters describe as the company's response to the complaints. Both sides of it are worth reading together, because between them they explain why the marketing could not do the work here.

"Honestly about to toss out all of the Liquid Death merch I’ve bought over the years, being that brand loyalty is somewhat of a myth."

"Thorough, but patronizing and ignorant. Brand loyalty is a myth? Tell that to Apple, Coca-Cola, or ANY domestic car company. Brand loyalty keeps companies afloat, especially during economic downturns."

What this means for brands

The uncomfortable finding is not that the marketing failed. It is that the marketing was never the thing being bought, and its success made that hard to see. Awareness, distribution and a can that reads correctly at a bar are what this brand converted into revenue, and all three are product and channel assets rather than affection. Test the difference before you need it: ask your customers what they would do if the recipe changed and the logo did not. If the honest answer is that they would read the ingredients and start comparing, your brand equity is buying you consideration, not forgiveness. Consideration is enormously valuable and it is worth what you paid. It just does not cover a reformulation.

6. What still holds the ones who stayed

The last section is the smallest, roughly 120 coded mentions, so treat it as a direction. It is also the most practical, because it is a list of the things that survived.

Why people who stayed say they stayed
1. The plain water was never part of the change~35%
2. A cold large can is a format nothing else matches~25%
3. It does the job alcohol used to do~18%
4. It is everywhere now, and that counts~16%
5. They want the brand to be good again~5%

The plain unflavored can is doing an enormous amount of work here. It is the one product in the range that commenters agree did not change, and a meaningful share of the remaining loyalty has retreated onto it.

"Same. Love Liquid Death. Just the plain water kind."

"I still prefer the flat water but this was one of the better recent additions since the stevia incident lmao"

"Yup! Still enjoy it even thought the taste changed slightly. Is still my favorite flavored water brand."

The format comments are the ones with an expiry date attached, and they are the clearest illustration of how a loyalty anchor becomes a churn trigger when it is removed.

"Grave Fruit Tallboys are my favorite, followed by the plain sparkling tallboys. If I'm thirsty, the 12oz cans just dont last long enough before I have to get up and grab another. The large ones are the perfect size. Once amazon runs out, I'll cancel my subscription."

"Liquid Death Mountain Water, and Iced Teas are honestly my go-to when everyone’s drinking and I’m not feeling it. Pop one in a koozie and people think you’re crushing IPA’s or Craft Beers and dont say a word."

What this means for brands

Look at the top four again and notice what is missing. Not one of them is a brand attribute. An unchanged formula, a can size, a social function and shelf presence are all production and distribution decisions, and a competitor with capital can copy every one of them within a year. That is the real exposure a marketing-led brand carries, and it is why the strongest recommendation from this corpus is also the least glamorous: keep at least one product in the range untouched and say publicly that it is untouched. In this study the unflavored can is functioning as an escape valve, absorbing customers who would otherwise have left the brand entirely. It costs nothing to preserve and it is holding the largest single share of the remaining loyalty.

The question this corpus could not answer

Whether any of it shows up in the numbers. A brand community is a gathering of the people who care most in both directions, and nothing in 8,000 comments tells you how many customers were affected, how much volume moved, or whether the larger category the company went after more than covers the segment it upset. It is entirely possible that this was a good trade and that the loudest version of the loss is confined to a small, articulate group who were never going to be the growth story. What the corpus does establish is the shape of the risk, and the shape is worth knowing on its own: the exits were product-level, specific, and completely unmoved by a brand that most of the people leaving still openly admire.

A customer glossary

If you work on brand, product or lifecycle for a consumer brand with a passionate community, these are the terms already in circulation among the people you sell to.

TermWhat people meanSignal
Pre steviaCans made before the sweetener change, treated as a distinct and superior product with its own resale-style hunt. The existence of a name for your old inventory is a warning sign in itself.complaint
Stevia'd outReaching a personal limit on a sweetener across a whole category, not just one brand. Describes fatigue rather than dislike, and it is harder to reverse.objection
Check the ingredientsThe new pre-purchase ritual, performed in the aisle. Once a customer starts reading the panel every time, you have lost the automatic repurchase permanently, whatever they decide that day.behaviour
TallboyThe large can, referred to as an object with its own identity rather than a pack size. Carries the whole social use case: it reads as a beer from across the room.benefit
The black canThe plain unflavored product, named by its colour to distinguish it from the sweetened range. Functions as the trusted default when the rest of the range is suspect.benefit
It lost meThe standard exit phrase in this corpus, stated flatly and in the past tense. Not a threat and not a request. A report.complaint
UndrinkableThe verdict word for the reformulated flavors. Note the absoluteness: not worse, not disappointing, but outside the set of things they will consume.complaint
They sold outApplied to a company changing a product to reach a bigger market. In an alternative-coded brand this is the most expensive accusation available, because the identity was the differentiator.complaint
Diet soda nowA category reclassification delivered as an insult. The customer is saying you left the shelf they were shopping, which is more consequential than saying the taste is bad.objection
Great marketingSaid admiringly and almost always about the company rather than about the drink. Watch for it in your own reviews: it is a compliment that describes you as a spectacle rather than a purchase.behaviour

Frequently asked questions

Did Liquid Death's marketing protect it from the reformulation backlash?

Not in the language people use. Of about 114 coded comments where someone describes changing their buying behavior toward the brand, roughly 66% name something about the product itself, meaning the sweetener, the taste, the can size or the price. Only about 8% name anything about the marketing, the advertising or the company's public conduct. The admiration for the brand's marketing is real and appears in the same threads, often in the same comment as the exit. It just does not function as a reason to keep buying.

What do Liquid Death customers say actually changed about the product?

Overwhelmingly the sweetener. Of coded mentions describing a change, about 57% name the move away from agave and toward stevia, about 21% describe the taste and the aftertaste it leaves without naming the ingredient, about 10% describe a flavor that was pulled or is no longer findable, about 9% describe the price or the can getting smaller, and about 3% describe the carbonation or something else about the liquid. Stevia is named by name in roughly 750 comments across the corpus, close to one comment in ten.

What did customers do after the Liquid Death formula changed?

They moved, and they moved specifically. Of coded responses to the change, about 44% describe switching to a different sparkling water brand, usually a named one such as Spindrift, Waterloo, Polar or Topo Chico. About 21% describe hunting for remaining old-formula cans and reading ingredient panels before buying. About 16% describe stopping altogether, several by canceling a standing Amazon subscription. About 9% wrote in to the company, and about 9% say they stayed and do not mind the change.

How do drinkers describe Liquid Death's move into sodas, teas and energy drinks?

As a category change rather than a range extension. Of coded mentions about the product line, about 39% discuss the flavored sparkling waters, about 31% the sodas, about 16% the iced teas, about 9% the energy and caffeinated line, and about 4% the plain water. The recurring argument in the soda conversation is not that the sodas are bad. It is that the brand left a category it owned for one it does not, described by one commenter as leaving a market segment they dominated for one where they are a tiny fish in a big sea of soda.

What do people actually think of Liquid Death's marketing?

The marketing is respected and the price is resented, at the same time. Of coded mentions in the marketing and brand conversation, about 66% are some version of paying a premium for water, about 13% discuss the sponsorships and the celebrity turn, about 10% state plainly that the marketing is genuinely good, about 8% say the edge feels forced or has worn off, and about 3% say the branding is the actual product. Notably, the admiration is usually offered as a compliment to the company and not as a reason the commenter buys.

What still keeps loyal Liquid Death customers buying?

Product attributes, not brand attributes. Of coded reasons people give for still buying, about 35% point out that the plain unflavored water was never part of the change, about 25% describe the large cold can as a format nothing else matches, about 18% describe the job it does at a bar or a show when they are not drinking, about 16% cite how widely it is stocked now, and about 5% say they simply want the brand to be good again. Every one of the top four is something a competitor can copy with a production decision.

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This report analyzes consumer language and perceptions about a named beverage brand. Statements about ingredients, formulations, can sizes, discontinued products, pricing, retail availability and company communications are reported as claims made by commenters at the time of writing and were not independently verified with the company. Nothing here is a statement of fact about the composition, labelling or safety of any product, and nothing here is health, dietary or medical advice. Descriptions of physical reactions to any ingredient are individual consumer accounts, not evidence of a general effect. Brand and product names appear only as they were mentioned by commenters and remain the property of their owners. Percentages are directional estimates from this corpus, not a census of customer behaviour, and this study measures conversation, not sales.

Edu

Written by Edu

Founder of Insightios. I read Reddit threads, Amazon reviews, and YouTube comment sections so DTC brands can write copy that sounds like their customers. More about me.